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  QUESTION of the DAY (a brain teaser)

  by Terry in

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  question of the dayeach man chosen of the twelve jesus selected had been called disciples, or "students" (meaning "one who learns").

  (latin discipulus; greek μαθητής mathētḗs; hebrew לִמּוּד limmûdh;jesus is stated in the bible to have sent out the twelve using a new description: apostles, "whom he also named apostles" (luke 6:13), first before his death "to the lost sheep of israel" (matthew 10), and after his (resurrection to spread the message of the good news to all nations (matthew 28:16-28:20).with the above firmly in mind, the question arises: “why aren’t the governing body called apostles?”.

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  neat blue dog

  There are many remnants of the business world left in JW terminology, from both Russell the wannabe businessman and Rutherford the lawyer and wannabe judge. Just like publisher, governing body has more secular origins.

  But you're right: they claim to be directly appointed and 'sent forth' from God and Jesus themselves, so technically there should be no issue with being called apostles. However not doing so makes it easier to talk out of both sides of their mouths. They also have written lots of material denouncing apostolic succession which would have to be backpedaled. And besides, the Mormons beat them to it with their governing body, "The Quorum of the Twelve Apostles".
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  Lockdown: 2025 | Full Sci-Fi Thriller Movie | Exclusive to Sci-Fi Central

  by lastmanstanding in

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  2. beliefs

  please go to youtube and watch this movie.

  and read the comments.

  see if you come up with the same thing i think.. ps pay attention to the young man quoting the new world translation from matthew 24 about the day of the lord.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfwaldts8c.

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  neat blue dog

  Yeah definitely not a secret WT project. But it does look like it was made by someone who was raised around JWs when younger and is now having existential thoughts and maybe contemplating going back, scared of current events and looking for meaning.
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  Renting to a Witness of the opposite sex...

  by James Robinson in

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  2. beliefs

  i need a question answered.

  i know of a situation where a single sister took in a single brother as a renter, so she could be his caregiver, as he was very along in years.. long story short, they were forced to get married.

  i believe it was labeled under "appearance of evil" by the elders.. my question is: what do the elders base this on?

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  neat blue dog

  I believe you're confusing what the Elders book actually says, which is the opposite. In fact it mentions this situation explicitly and says that would be an exception. That's probably where you heard it.
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  Money Spinners

  by Lost in the fog in

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  2. beliefs

  i can remember when i was in that there were numerous articles and assembly talks about not using the congregation as a means of making money from a captive audience of brothers and sisters.. i was looking at the etsy website and stumbled upon a jw themed product.. i wondered if there were any more and discovered that there were lots.

  mind you maybe it's people who have left who see an opportunity for making money from gullible jws.. https://www.etsy.com/uk/search?q=jehovah%27s%20witness%20letter%20writing&ref=auto-1.

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  neat blue dog

  I wouldn't say they're ex JWs, because JWs have been doing this for decades in different forms. The only thing they've been specifically forbidden from monetizing is the JWdotORG logo or any copyrighted imagery.
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  Missed opportunity of Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by Abraham1 in

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  2. beliefs

  jesus had foretold that people of "last days" would “faint out of fear” because of things such as “sea-level rise’ as part of “signs of last days” in luke 21:25. bible translators—including new world translation of jehovah’s witnesses—missed the real meaning as they translated it as “roaring of the sea and its agitation.” (https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/nwt/books/luke/21/).

  more careful translations such as niv put it: “roaring and tossing of the sea.” (https://biblehub.com/luke/21-25.htm) word for “tossing” is σάλου (salou), from saino; i.e., billow,” (swell outwards).

  thus underlying thought is like balloon swelling, or water flowing outwards, as though ready to roll over, thus points to the modern terminology “sea-level rise.” biblos interlinear translation (int:) translates it as “of [the] sea and rolling surge.” “rolling sea.” (a greek lexicon to the new testament, edward robinson (d.d., page 416) (a greek lexicon to the new testament on the basis of dr. robinson ... by c. robson).. jesus’ original use of the wording “tossing of the sea” is another way of saying “sea-level would rise” as a result of pollution of air.

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  neat blue dog

  Yeah that's not at all a stretch.

  That being said, JWs would eat it up.
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  So, When Did They Stop Singing?

  by Atlantis in

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  rutherford said:.

  a few words like the above pronounced at the beginning of the study would be far more beneficial than to occupy the same time in singing songs, which often express much that is out of harmony with the truth of and concerning god's kingdom.watchtower/1938/may/1st/pg.139 .

  back then, they had what was called: order of study, and this is what every overseer was instructed to say to the audience.. .

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  neat blue dog

  What a joke
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  Are you open to having a count as to how many ex-JW`s on this site are vaccinated x2 jabs. ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i`ll go first ,i have my vaccinated 2 jabs for the elderly.. if i`m not around in the next 3 months you will know why ..

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  neat blue dog

  No experimental gene therapy yet, unless I'm backed into a corner.
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  Fawlty Towers (1975) & (1979) - still laugh-out-loud funny after all these years

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, i went and bought series one and series two on second hand dvd for one pound each.. i first saw series one of fawlty towers when i was about 11, then i saw series two a year later.. it's a little dated now, but that doesn't really matter because it's still making people laugh.

  that's all comedy is.. there is one episode - the kipper and the corpse - which i think is a bit rough around the edges, it's not as polished as some of the other episodes.

  but it still has some great lines in it, e.g.. the two old ladies: you're in a good mood today, mr fawlty.. basil: yes, well one of the guests has just died.

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  neat blue dog

  For the Yanks here, what we call seasons are called series over there, which can be confusing because we use the word series to refer to the entire show, all seasons . . . or all series 😅
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  "The Bunker" episode

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you like criminal minds check out season 13 episode 6, the bunker.

  of course it borrows from cults in general but some jw similarities as well, such as emotional propaganda videos, us vs them, telling new converts that they're going to be persecuted and told lies about the organization, end of the world fear etc.. here's an idea: if you're pimo, watch it with a jw relative and watch the discomfort ensue 😏.

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  neat blue dog

  If you like Criminal Minds check out season 13 episode 6, The Bunker. Of course it borrows from cults in general but some JW similarities as well, such as emotional propaganda videos, us vs them, telling new converts that they're going to be persecuted and told lies about the organization, end of the world fear etc.

  Here's an idea: If you're PIMO, watch it with a JW relative and watch the discomfort ensue 😏
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  The left keeps topping its self on crazy

  by mickbobcat in

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  https://youtu.be/ffmhcph_ops.

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  neat blue dog

  Nobody votes for a political party based on their party platform from 150 years ago.

  It never ended, just adapted. The abortion that Sanger promoted at KKK meetings is still largest among black Americans. That and welfare which discourages marriage, leniency on drugs and violent crime and policies that attract such leeches trap the innocent and perpetuate a living hell in numerous democrat cities, and this is the modern-day plantation. I recommend you watch the film Uncle Tom, made BY Americans who are black, not African Americans. P.S. - REAL African Americans (ie immigrants) are far more successful than native black Americans, because they came here with appreciation for the country and a willingness to work towards their own success, and they haven't been hooked to the iv drip of brainwashing and feeling that one group of corrupt generational politicians is their only option.